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Fann says Supervisors fear outcome of election audit

Karen Fann

Karen Fann

Senate President Karen Fann said Friday that Maricopa County officials may be balking at cooperating with an audit of the 2020 election results because they fear what it might turn up.

“I’m beginning to wonder if they’re not as confident in their (election) system as they say they are,” Fann told Capitol Media Services on Friday of the latest refusal by county supervisors to let Senate-hired auditors review the tallying equipment and hand count the 2.1 million ballots where they are currently located at county election offices.

Her comments come less than 24 hours after the board foreclosed the option of opening up the Maricopa County Tabulation and Election Center to the outside auditors.

In a letter to the Senate’s attorney, Steve Tully who represents the supervisors, said they stand ready to comply with the original subpoena. That required the equipment and ballots to be delivered to the Senate.

“The request to perform any audit, recount or other related activities at MCTEC is beyond the scope of the subpoenas issued,” Tully wrote.

Fann said efforts are underway to find an alternate location.

It’s not a simple matter of space. She said the very nature of having actual ballots and counting equipment requires that it be in a place that is both secure 24 hours a day while also having the capability of being monitored by those who want to watch.

And if nothing else, Fann said it will add to the $150,000 that the Senate has agreed to pay its audit team. All this, she said, could be avoided if the county would just cooperate.

“For the life of me, I cannot figure out what they’re so afraid of,” Fann said. She said senators simply want to put the issues surrounding the vote to bed.

“If constituents have questions and they want those questions answered, why wouldn’t we do this?” Fann said. “It makes no sense.”

Tully said the board remains ready to deliver the ballots and the equipment to the Senate, which is what is in the subpoena.

“Alternatively, the county is willing to discuss delivery of the requested items to the senators’ custody at a non-county owned location of the senators’ choosing,” he said.

Jack Sellers, who chairs the board, said it’s not like the county is blindly accepting the election results. He said the county conducted “two extensive and independent” audits of the election in February.

“They showed no evidence of equipment malfunction or foul play,” Sellers said in a prepared statement. These findings, in addition to the hand count audit completed by the political parties and accuracy tests before and after the election, affirm no hacking or vote switching occurred in the 2020 election.”

And he took a swat of his own for the Senate’s decision to pursue its own review even after the one done by “certified experts” hired by the county.

“I hope the auditors hired by the Senate will take great care with your ballots and the election equipment leased with your tax dollars,” Sellers said.

All this comes on the heels of the Senate releasing the contract and other documents Fann has signed with Douglas Logan, chief executive officer of Cyber Ninjas, the lead firm hired to conduct the audit.

Questions were raised about that choice after discovery of Twitter posts by Logan suggesting he already has concluded that the election results, at least on the national level, are suspicious.

“The parallels between the statistical analysis of Venezuela and this year’s election are astonishing,” he wrote in a December post, a clear reference to unproven and denied allegations that Dominion Voting Systems, the company that produced the equipment used by Maricopa County, is linked to the family of the deceased former dictator.

Logan also has shared other posts, including one that said, “With all due respect, if you can’t see the blatant cheating, malfeasance and outright voter fraud, then you are ignorant or lying.”

“It was not a mistake to hire him,” Fann said.

“We have four great, reputable companies that are involved with this,” she said, referring to other firms that will work under the control of Cyber Ninjas. “This is being done in the utmost transparency with the most qualified people, with checks, double checks and triple checks to make sure all this is done correctly.”

And what of his Twitter messages which he deleted, but were found through archive searches?

“Just because somebody found some Tweet that’s within some archive program that none of us ever would have done it (the search) doesn’t mean anything,” Fann said. “Is no one allowed to say anything?”

Logan’s qualifications and possible bias aside, the scope of work that Logan has agreed to do for the Senate shows the firm is starting from the position that something is wrong. And it raises questions about the tactics.

According to the contract, Cyber Ninjas may contact individual voters in at least three precincts, even going to their homes, “to collect information of whether the individual voted in the election.”

In fact, the contract says part of the audit team the Senate hired already “has worked together with a number of individuals” — who are not identified in the contract — who knocked on doors “to confirm if valid voters actually lived at the stated address.”

Logan did not immediately respond to calls seeking more information. But Fann said the moves make sense.

“There were a lot of people that filled out affidavits saying that ‘I got 25 ballots at my house and there’s only two of us that live here,’ ” Fann said. And there also was a report of 75 ballots sent to a vacant lot in Tucson.

“They’re going to take those affidavits and they’re going to go to those people and they’re going to say, ‘You signed an affidavit that said that this happened. Is this true? Give us a little information so we can verify this and track it down,’ ” she said.

But not all those contacts will be based on affidavits. The audit team is going to be contacting voters in person to look for inconsistencies.

For example, Fann said, historical records may show a given precinct has never had more than a 35% turnout.

“And all of a sudden they had a 90% voter turnout,” she said. Fann acknowledged that this election did produce record turnout for both presidential candidates.

“But the question is, how do you go from 35% to 90%?” she asked.

Assuming voters talk to auditors at their door, that still leaves the question of what does it prove if those interviews show that 90% of them did not vote. Fann said that will lead to further investigation.

One possibility, she said, is that not all the ballots cast from that precinct were authentic, though Fann said it “obviously didn’t happen.”

She said it’s also possible that ballots from one precinct got mixed with ballots from another one. But that would not change the outcome of the presidential race as it was on all ballots.

 

 

19 comments

  1. Nothing to worry about if there was no dishonesty! The more the resistance and stall tactics has to be a guaranteed indication that things are not right and don’t want to be exposed! Ya wanna bet?

  2. No, they are leery of who you have counting the ballots. STOP THE STEAL idiots as are you!,,,,

  3. It really makes one wonder why the strong opposition to an audit, that would only prove if nothing nefarious was done! Let the audit begine and be done with it!….Unless they REALLY have something to hide!

  4. Michael N Degrood

    Only the guilty try to hide the truth.

  5. A reasonable suspicion on the part of Senator Fann, if not understated.
    The real wonderment is the initial blocking raised the suspicion that they knew what an audit would reveal.
    Now, well, we have to wonder if that problem has been “FIXED” ?
    It is after all Maricopa County.

  6. This is like some Zombie-Apocalypse, with otherwise reasonable people chanting some absurd lie repeatedly, as if repetition will change facts. Two audits is enough. Constant reviews of votes is political gaming, designed to create some illusion that is harming us all. Maybe the childish refusal to accept facts is designed to keep the idea that Trump won alive all the way to the 2022 election. Crazy as it sounds, we know there will be people who will believe it no matter how many audits we have.

  7. You Stop the Steal Idiots, like Fann, GOP Chairwoman Wark and others are perpetuating this lie to confuse the citizens to believing something nefarious happened to the ballots or the machines. The machines were certified BEFORE the election by the Sec. of State, and both PARTIES, and the AG’s OFFICE!!! IF there was something wrong at that time, it would of been fixed before the election! Then after the election, how many frivolous lawsuits had no evidence of fraud? at least a dozen in Maricopa County and all tossed out by the Courts, not to mention the 50 something tossed out by the courts around the country!! Even the U.S. Supreme Court tossed out at least 2 lawsuits. There is NO THERE THERE!!! Wake up People! Quit wasting taxpayer monies on this stupid audit. Nothing will be found. Election Over, Biden Won!!! GOP=Party of Stupid!

  8. Ha! Fann can’t figure out why the rest of us are suspicious of known conspiracy theorists & insurrectionists doing the re-count? Will Cyber Ninjas find the elusive votes?

  9. You need to take over the county building and do the work there. No more mr nice politicians. Get your collective asses in gear. The building belongs to the people not the politicians

  10. Well break out the popcorn scooter, because this is the only audit that America needs. Then everyone will see how crooked most of our long term Politicians really are!!

  11. I believe people have the right to inspect the very machines we vote on. Should not be a problem. But now we have a corporation telling us it is none of our business to see if this corporation ( dominion) is on the up & up and not doing the same thing they have done for hugo chavez. If the people can not inspect our voting machines they should be outlawed.

  12. Darlene matlewsky

    A scientist on oan showed absolute proof these voting machines were compromised. Why not look at that evidence. Half of the country will never be satisfied until these machines and the process is looked into. Otherwise we feel…hello socialism……goodby America.

  13. I knew exactly what to expect when the two audits that all of the stop the steal idiots were clamoring over failed to show even an ounce of tampering or malfunction – I told them if there was anything found I would admit that I was wrong but if they found nothing wrong I expected the same thing from them. Do you see any of them here saying that they were wrong? Nope – instead they are pinning their hopes on an audit performed by a stop the steal owned company with less than dubious credentials to some how find what two separate independent audits by two separate companies in addition to election officials certification of the machines and hand counts would have found if it existed.
    This idiotic audit will prove nothing. If and when they find nothing then all of you MAGA hat wearing fools will NOT be convinced even at that point – and if they do find something it will be deemed as suspicious to the rest of us.

  14. KAREN , DO NOT BE INTIMIDATED BY THESE MONKEYS ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THAT IS THEIR SPECIALTY…BEING COMPLETE ********!! JUST PRESS ON, DOING YOUR JOB WITH YOUR FELLOW SENATORS. YOU, AS A GROUP OUTNUMBER THE BOS. SO YOU ARE MUCH MORE POWERFUL TO BE ABLE TO GET THE JOB DONE!! WE HAVE COFIDENCE IN YOU…SO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF THAT YOU CAN DO IT. THIS IS JUST A SMALL PIECE OF A LARGER PUZZLE THAT MAKES UP THIS ELECTION FRAUD FIASCO BUT IS NO LESS IMPORTANT THAN ALL THE REST…BECAUSE YOU ARE PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN IT AND IT IS YOUR DUTY TO THIS WONDERFUL STATE OF OURS TO BE YOUR VERY BEST AT WHAT YOU DO .THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO KAREN. MY SINCERE GRATITUDE Donatelo tuc.az

  15. Maricopa Cabana, two audits were done using phony ballot images from the Questionable Dominion machines. Funny that the doubters of the election fraud say there has been two audits yet they claim unsealing the ballots themselves is illegal. What was counted during the previous audits if the ballots are still sealed?

  16. 2 legit audits should of been the end.
    How many times does GOP want recounts? How about 20, since 2020 is the election GOP lost.
    Have all republicans recounting votes, no one is even qualified to do this audit. A cyber ninjas, with their fabricated lies and conspiracy theories.
    The ballots are going to be destroyed, they have already messed up by using red and black pens.
    Idiots didn’t even know, you can only use red pens.
    GOP must love to lose. They have already lost 3 times with recount.
    If taxpayers are paying for this audit, many will fight this.
    The ones who think the election was stolen are only doing this, because they’re orange master is a con man and a loser. GOP can audit and recount 100 times, the outcome will be the same. Do you think Qcumbers would acknowledge that there was no fraud? HELL NO!
    Math is math same answer all day long.

  17. Damn, how stupid are a lot of the people in AZ? They are still buying the BS lies from Trump and other wack-job conspiracy theorists whose sole goals are to hold power, con their supporters, line their pockets, and create more division in the U.S. These are not patriots. They don’t give two sh*ts about the supporters who ignorantly and willingly buy their BS.

    Wake up and get a freaking clue. Facebook and Fox “news” are not credible news sources.

    The ignorance of these supporters and followers makes AZ an embarrassment in the U.S. and makes the U.S. an embarrassment on the international stage. This secret audit being performed by a sketchy organization makes the people of AZ look even stupider. Note to self: Never visit AZ again.

  18. The truth will likely scare the hell out of us

  19. If there’s nothing to hide, why are you guys opposed to this? And you need to stop with the complaining. We’ve had 4 years of dealing with baseless impeachments, “not my president” bullcrap from leftists and their drones. Shoe’s on the other foot, and we’re being GENTLE, so suck it up, buttercup.

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