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NCSL summit opens with grief, warnings on polarization

Key Points:
  • National summit of state lawmakers opens with somber tone
  • Legislators pay tribute to assassinated Melissa Hortman
  • Attendees urge focus on governance over grievance and service over self

BOSTON — A national summit of state lawmakers from around the country opened Monday with a somber tone as hosts reflected on the June assassination of Minnesota Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and cautioned about the growing threat of political polarization.

Legislative leaders from Minnesota paid tribute to Hortman as a beacon of leadership who was unafraid to reach across the aisle, and they urged attendees to honor her by working to counteract increasingly inflammatory political rhetoric.

The topic became a consistent theme throughout the opening session of the three-day National Conference of State Legislatures annual summit. Elected officials from several other states, including those controlled by both Republicans and Democrats, urged their counterparts to resist divisiveness and find common ground.

Minnesota House Speaker Lisa Demuth, a Republican, recalled that when she was first elected minority leader in 2023, then-speaker Hortman — whose Democratic-Farm-Labor Party at that point held a majority in the House — reached out quickly and offered to set up a recurring weekly meeting.

“She didn’t have to do that. She had all of the votes that she needed, and she could have easily dismissed me as just another member of the minority party. Other leaders would have,” Demuth said. “But Melissa’s brand of leadership brought people in instead of shutting them out.”

“Melissa showed me that true leadership doesn’t stop at party lines,” she added. “As we continue to mourn the loss of Minnesota’s most impactful public servants, I hope we can all live out the lesson that she taught us.”

Hortman and her husband, Mark, died in a June 14 shooting at their home. Prosecutors allege that 57-year-old Vance Boelter, while impersonating a police officer, targeted them as part of a list of politically motivated targets and that he attempted to stop at the homes of two other lawmakers.

Boelter also allegedly shot Minnesota Sen. John Hoffman, a member of the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, and his wife, Yvette, who are recovering.

Hoffman, who has been released from the hospital, addressed the NCSL crowd via a prerecorded video message. He called on his counterparts to “leave Boston with one shared resolve: to rise above the noise, to work in the light, and to never forget that public service is about the public, not ourselves.”

“In this climate, we must recommit ourselves to governance over grievance, to service over self, and to action over anger,” Hoffman said. “Terror in the night isn’t legislative reform, and it’s repulsive. Showing up at somebody’s door in the dark, pounding, screaming, with a gun, impersonating law enforcement, is not a strategy for positive change. It’s intimidation, it’s violence, and it has no place in a healthy democracy.”

Minnesota Senate Majority Leader Erin Murphy, a member of the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, described watching “in real time as false narratives laying political blame were built on social media” on the day of the attacks.

“I’ve heard many suggest that in response to the evil that visited us, we should turn down the vitriol in our rhetoric. I think a lot of America would appreciate that. I know Melissa would,” Murphy said. “But as public leaders, we need to go deeper to understand how persistent, dehumanizing narratives and conspiracy theories in public discourse are serving movements and fueling the radicalization of individuals.”

Hosts played a video tribute to the Hortmans, casting an emotional pall over the packed Grand Ballroom at the Thomas M. Menino Convention & Exhibition Center. Several audience members could be seen wiping away tears.

Utah Senate President Pro Tempore Wayne Harper, a Republican and the current president of NCSL, called the attacks “un-American” and an act of “depravity.”

While a parade of speakers at the summit’s opening session all called for a calmer political tone, they gestured at a variety of potential underlying causes.

Murphy warned about the specter of conspiracy theories. Political commentator and radio host Michael Smerconish said a “mental health crisis” and a “polarized media” have played key roles in the degradation of decorum. And Wisconsin Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, a Republican, said he believes “people in the middle” are underrepresented.

Vos recalled facing a “pretty competitive primary” for reelection last year.

“I was up 40 points when I started the race, and my pollster said, ‘I think you’re going to lose.’ I said, ‘What do you mean? Look at this polling result.’ He said, ‘You’re just not angry enough as a person, Robin. You need to figure out how, when you wake up in the morning, you look in the mirror and you ask yourself, What are you mad about? Because that’s where a lot of people in the world are, especially those who are the most engaged,'” Vos said during a discussion with Smerconish. “So we have to figure [out] a way to say to those who are most engaged, ‘It’s OK to be passionate. Frankly, I hope more people would be, but it’s not OK to be angry at everything that you disagree with.'”

Fourteen years after she survived being shot in the head during an assassination attempt, former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords told the crowd of thousands of state lawmakers, aides, lobbyists and others that she has had a long road to recovery.

“I’m relearning so many things: how to walk, how to talk, and I’m fighting to make the country safer,” Giffords, who became one of the country’s best-known gun safety advocates after she left Congress, said. “It can be so difficult. Losses hurt, setbacks are hard, but I tell myself: Move ahead.

“A better world is ‘possible,’ but change doesn’t happen overnight, and we can’t do it alone,” she added.

The top two Democrats in the Massachusetts Legislature, House Speaker Ron Mariano and Senate President Karen Spilka, also had camaraderie on their mind while welcoming attendees to Boston.

Spilka said in an interview afterward that the conference produces “wonderful conversations with my colleagues from across the country, whether they be representatives or senators, Democrats or Republicans.”

“We all are here doing what we’re doing for the same mission, the same purpose,” she said.

Mariano said the summit will provide a chance “for folks from across the political spectrum to come together.”

“I actually had dinner last night with a Republican,” he quipped from the ballroom stage. “In Massachusetts, that makes news.”

State Affairs reporter Sam Drysdale contributed to this story.

Chris Lisinski is a Statehouse reporter for State Affairs Pro Massachusetts. Reach him at clisinski@stateaffairs.com. Follow our coverage on social media — search for #LegSummit2025.

Tensions rise between Arizona Corporation Commission and Legislature

Key Points

  • The ACC oversees regulation of state utility companies.
  • There has been unusual friction this session between commissioners and lawmakers.
  • Legislation imposed on ACC causing tensions.

Tensions are high between the Legislature and the Arizona Corporation Commission this session as lawmakers attempt to address issues like residential utility costs, energy reliability and wildfire mitigation through legislation. 

The ACC, which oversees the regulation of the state’s public utility companies, has been the subject of many bills aimed at providing solutions or guardrails to ensure utility ratepayers are protected from extreme weather events, rising utility costs and power outages. However, commissioners say they haven’t been included in the drafting of some bills, many of which place additional burdens on them and their staff. 

Those familiar with the ACC say the back-and-forth between the two entities is unusual — especially given that both are currently controlled by Republicans — but not unheard of.

The friction between the two was on display during an open staff meeting of the ACC on March 12. Commissioners expressed frustration with several Republican lawmakers and Arizona Public Service for attempting to push through legislation without giving the ACC enough time to provide feedback. 

“I can’t stress how frustrating it has been to have such an incredible, complex piece of legislation like this that got introduced to the Legislature and APS never even shared a copy of that bill or the language with the commission in advance,” ACC Chairman Kevin Thompson said of one bill at the March 12 meeting. “Especially when we’re being asked to carry such a heavy load and responsibility.”

Thompson was referring to legislation introduced by Rep. Gail Griffin, R-Hereford, that would require utility companies to develop wildfire mitigation plans and submit them to the ACC for approval. That bill, and another introduced by Griffin, were written by APS without commissioners participating in the drafting process — or even being shown the bills — until they were filed. 

The ACC sent letters to lawmakers regarding the wildfire mitigation bill and another bill related to securitization of utility assets detailing their concerns and lack of involvement. Commissioners also voted to formally oppose several bills during their March 12 meeting. 

Rep. Justin Olson, R-Mesa, received the harshest criticism from members of the ACC for bills he is running this session. Olson served on the ACC before being elected to the House in 2024 and has brought his experience with the ACC to his legislation.

Olson introduced a bill to close the “revolving door” between utility companies and the commission. In its original form, the bill would have required commissioners or employees of the ACC to wait four years before working for a utility company and employees of a utility company to wait two years before working for the ACC. 

During the ACC meeting on March 12, Thompson said the bill “was so poorly written and so ill-conceived that I thought surely (it) would never even make it to a hearing.”

“A high schooler could have probably done a better job in actually writing this if they would have just used A.I. and a little bit of Googling,” Thompson continued.

He also personally attacked Olson, saying the lawmaker had done nothing to improve working conditions at the ACC and had learned nothing during his four-year tenure as a commissioner. 

Thompson told the Arizona Capitol Times that he has a lot of respect for Olson, but he “expected more from him” as a former commissioner. He said he is particularly frustrated with Olson’s bill because it targets ACC staff. 

“I spoke with Representative Olson, and talked to him about … the impact that (the bill) would have on the commission, and the impact that it would have on the employees,” Thompson said. “And his response was, ‘Well, that wasn’t my intent,’ but yet he didn’t do anything to amend his bill. And that was, for me, the frustrating part, because we offered to provide amendments to make his legislation better, but it fell on deaf ears.”

Olson’s bill ultimately failed in the House on March 13. After the vote, Olson said he did not agree with commissioners’ characterization of the bill as poorly written.

“The bill accomplished what it was designed to accomplish, and that is to prevent regulatory capture,” Olson said. “Now I can appreciate that the commission may be opposed to having these additional guardrails placed upon them. That doesn’t mean that it’s not the right policy.”

On a motion for reconsideration on March 19, Olson proposed an amendment to the bill on the House floor that significantly scaled back the policy. Now the bill only requires commissioners to wait two years before being hired at a utility company and any mention of staff has been removed.

Andy Kvesic served as the ACC’s chief counsel and legal division director from 2017 to 2019 and said commissioners and lawmakers had a “good working relationship” during his time at the commission.

“There’s a natural tendency of the Legislature to want to get involved and want to influence certain policy decisions,” Kvesic said. “But it never crossed the line in my time where we were locking horns with the Legislature.”

Kvesic attributed the working relationship between the two bodies to members of the commission having experience in the Legislature as former lawmakers, where they developed good relationships with members of leadership and the Governor’s Office. 

Sandy Bahr, a longtime lobbyist with the Sierra Club, said the ACC has not been pushing back on the Legislature in recent years and she was surprised to see it happening during this session, given that both entities are controlled by Republicans.

“I am a little bit surprised by that, because it seemed like they should be pretty close to being on the same page,” Bahr said.

She said she was also surprised that the ACC waited so long to take a stance on bills moving through the Legislature. By the time commissioners voted on their position, many bills had already moved out of their chamber of origin. 

“These bills have been around for a while, starting in January and they’re just getting around to opposing some of Olson’s bills,” Bahr said. “Why didn’t they speak up sooner?”

Thompson said the ACC has been largely uninvolved in legislation during the two years he has been at the commission. He attributed this year’s involvement to the number of bills introduced this session related to the commission and the sectors it regulates. Thompson said commissioners have been made aware of at least 25 bills that deal with public utility companies, securities, business registration or the ACC itself. 

“I think because (of) the number of bills that were written that were impactful, not only to the organization, but to the ratepayers as well, I think there was a feeling from all of the commissioners that we needed to do a better job of communicating our concerns, our issues with some of this legislation,” Thompson said.

He noted that not all interactions with lawmakers have been bad. Thompson said Griffin has been very open to meeting with the ACC and said Rep. Jeff Weninger, R-Chandler, collaborated with commissioners and staff on a bill extending funding for the ACC’s online filing system for businesses.

“What I would love to see is better coordination and communication with our counterparts at the Legislature,” Thompson said. “Consider us your experts on securities and your experts on energy-related matters. Our doors are always open.”

House lawmakers cite potential police bias, but pass speeding ticket immunity anyway

Arizona voters are a bit closer to being able to decide if state lawmakers should be able to keep the privileges they now have against getting cited when they are pulled over for traffic violations.

But not every legislator thinks that public vote should occur. In fact, one-third of state representatives voted March 11 against even giving voters a chance to weigh in.

That includes Rep. Rachel Keshel, R-Tucson, who insisted that eliminating what has been called “legislative immunity” could result in a governor — not necessarily this one — sending out state police to stop lawmakers from reaching the Capitol to cast an important vote.

But there were enough supporters to get approval for HCR2053 to clear the House and send the measure to the Senate.

Its future there, however, remains unclear.

It is now up to Senate President Warren Petersen to decide which committee should get to review the proposal. That is critical because whoever chairs the panel that gets it could decide to bury it.

There also isn’t a requirement for the Gilbert Republican to assign it to a committee at all for a hearing. Petersen did not return messages seeking comment.

And even if it clears the Senate, voters would get the last word in 2026.

At the heart of the issue is a provision in the Arizona Constitution.

It says lawmakers “shall be privileged from arrests in all cases except treason, felony and breach of the peace” and not subject to being served with civil lawsuits during the period starting from 15 days ahead of the legislative session and running until lawmakers adjourn for the year.

What has brought it into focus recently are several incidents where lawmakers who were speeding avoided getting cited by police.

It started with then-Sen. Justine Wadsack. The Tucson Republican told Tucson police last year she could not be cited for speeding because of her immunity.

That, however, didn’t keep police from serving her with the citation after the end of the session. And she ended up getting the ticket dismissed by going to traffic school.

More recently, Republican Sen. Mark Finchem told a police officer in his new home town of Prescott he could not be cited for speeding. Still unresolved is whether police will ticket him after the session is over.

And Republican Sen. Jake Hoffman was not ticketed for driving 24 miles over the speed limit on a highway after a trooper recognized him as a legislator. There is no evidence Hoffman claimed immunity; DPS has decided it won’t issue a new citation when the session ends.

So what Rep. Quang Nguyen wants to do is alter the constitutional provision to add “all traffic violations” to the list of offenses for which the privilege does not apply.

During the House vote, Keshel said she sees no reason for the change.

“Yes, there have been those who have abused this privilege,” the Tucson Republican acknowledged. But she said it would be wrong to make the debate about legislators who want to speed or break the law.

Consider, Keshel told colleagues, someone like her driving to the Capitol from Tucson and there was someone in the Governor’s Office who did not share her political views.

“And they wanted to weaponize this against a member of the Legislature and stop us from being able to cast a very important vote on a very important piece of legislation?” she said. “They would be able to do that if we get rid of this.”

That scenario drew a sharp response from Nguyen.

“When we say the governor would weaponize and use police officers to pull us over to make sure a bill cannot be voted on, you know how insulting that is to police officers?” said the Prescott Valley Republican.

“We’re saying to police officers that, ‘You’re part of the goons, you can be manipulated, you can be told to pull a legislator over and hold them,’ ” he said.

And there’s something else.

“If you’re on your way to vote and you’re getting pulled over, you’re already late for a vote,” Nguyen said. And he said if someone should be worried about that, he should be the one, saying he travels 186 miles a day to the Capitol to get there in time to vote.

Rep. Walt Blackman said the issue is even more basic. He said that if lawmakers want to be considered leaders — and have the right to decide what is the law — they have to set an example.

“If we are to make law, no matter what the situation is, we should be able to follow that law,” Blackman said. Those laws, he said, include allowing police to stop and give tickets to motorists “because they are on their way to work, or wherever they are going.”

“So are we better than the people who sent us here who follow the very laws that we make?” Blackman asked. “Or are we setting a different standard because we are lawmakers which, to my opinion, doesn’t make us special.”

Rep. Lauren Hendrix, however, said those supporting the change are being swayed because it is being touted as eliminating “legislative immunity.” But the Gilbert Republican said there is no such phrase in the Arizona Constitution.

“It’s because we’re not immune from anything,” he told colleagues. “We’re given privilege from arrest and detainer, which means if you’re stopped they cannot arrest you, they cannot hold you, they cannot prevent you from going about your business.”

Hendrix called it a form of protection — and not, he said, for lawmakers.

“It’s protecting the voter that elected you,” he said. “The voter elected you to be able to be here and do your job and do your vote.”

Hendrix also said he takes no comfort in assurances that police and prosecutors are inherently honest.

“One side of the [political] aisle might ask Donald Trump how he feels about that, that all prosecutors are honest, that all law enforcement are honest,” he said. And Hendrix said if some people believe that Trump deserved to be prosecuted on various felonies, he has a different example.

“How about Hunter Biden?” he said, the son of the former president who was convicted of tax and weapons charges before his father pardoned him, saying he was being singled out because of who he is. “Why don’t you ask Hunter Biden how he feels about it?”

Rep. Kevin Volk said he understands the original intent behind the constitutional provision. But the Tucson Democrat said what he hears from Arizonans is “a frustration with what they feel like is elected officials leading increasingly different and separate lives from themselves as citizens.”

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