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Ducey confident new revenues can put $1B into education in next few years



Gov. Doug Ducey took a swat Monday at an initiative designed to raise taxes on the wealthy to finance education.

In speaking with reporters, the governor said he wants to know more about the ballot measure being pushed by teachers and education advocates to place a surcharge on the income taxes of individuals earning $250,000 a year or more or couples filing jointly with $500,000 in taxable income. There’s an even bigger surcharge for those above the $500,000/$1 million income figure.

But conceptually, Ducey made his views clear.

“Well, I don’t support tax increases,” Ducey said. “I think the government should find a way to live within its means.”

Backers say the dedicated revenues and the estimated $690 million the levy could raise will guarantee there is enough to fund education, including promised teacher pay raises, should the governor’s economic growth projections not pan out.

Ducey, however, defended those projections, saying he is confident there will be enough new revenues to put an additional $1 billion into education during the next three to five years. That includes not just the approximately $650 million price tag for the teacher raises by the 2020-2021 school year but the state finally restoring by the 2022-2023 school year the $371 million a year it has failed to give school districts annually for things like books, computers, buses and minor repairs.

The most recent figures from the Arizona Department of Revenue suggest that the levy would hit only those whose wages and investment income put them in the top 2.5 percent of Arizonans.

Ducey, who made his fortune from selling Cold Stone Creamery in 2007, sidestepped a question of whether he would be personally affected from such an income tax surcharge.

“Certainly, not with the governor’s salary I wouldn’t,” he quipped, noting his $95,000-a-year stipend for being the state’s chief executive.

Pushed about other sources of revenue, Ducey said to check out the financial disclosure statement that must be filed by all public officials.

Only thing is, that form lists only other source of income, but not amounts. It does detail various investments, though the form has only three value categories — under $25,000, $25,000 to $100,000, and more than $100,000 — with Ducey detailing several in that top bracket including his Paradise Valley home, a half an acre in Flagstaff, several individual retirement accounts and a blind trust.

“But this tax increase is not about me,” the governor said, saying he will judge all ballot measures by “what’s best for the state of Arizona, what’s best for our kids, teachers and parents, and what’s best for our economy.”

Backers need 150,642 valid signatures on petitions by July 5 to qualify for the November ballot.

Ducey also said Monday that teachers were not lied to when he promised last month each would get a 20 percent raise.

In unveiling his proposal, the governor said it would provide an “across the board” increase to teachers of 9 percent this coming school year, with an additional 5 percent the following year and an identical amount the year after that.

“We are going to put 20 percent additional money in for teacher pay, up through 2020,” he reaffirmed on Monday.

But the legislation approved last week takes the more than $300 million for that first year and the additional amounts in future years and instead gives those dollars to individual school districts based on the number of teachers each has.

At the very least, that means that the dollars going to districts whose teachers are paid more than the statewide average won’t be enough to cover that full 19 percent. Ducey uses the 20 percent figure, counting a 1 percent pay hike lawmakers approved last year which already is in effect.

Conversely, districts with low average pay will get proportionately more, meaning there would be enough for their districts to award pay hikes north of that average.

And it’s even more complex than that.

“The way the state will measure this is the average teacher pay today is $48,372,” he explained Monday. Ducey said there will be additional dollars given to schools sufficient to bring that average up to $58,130 by the 2020-2021 school year.

But then district officials get to not only decide how to divide up the money among teachers but even whether any of it should go to salaries of existing staff.

That flexibility means the ability to use the pay-hike dollars to instead hire more teachers. And it also means that schools could instead use the dollars for other priorities.

“Those dollars will go to the superintendents and principals,” the governor said.

“They asked for some flexibility on these dollars,” he continued. “There may be teachers at the lower end of the pay raise that need a more dramatic bump.”

And perhaps there will be no money for teachers at all.

The final version of the bill approved by lawmakers and signed Friday by Ducey has no requirement at all that any dollars go to salaries. That was inserted by design.

Sen. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills, specifically cited the example of the Scottsdale Unified School District which he said has been able to move around dollars to give teachers there at 14 percent increase in the past three years.

Kavanagh said it’s only fair to now allow districts in that position to use the extra state dollars for those programs and expenses that were not made in the interim to pay for that pay increase. Otherwise, he said, the alternative was giving teachers in that district what would amount to a 34 percent increase.

The governor said he has no problem with all that flexibility.

“The state’s in the resource business,” he said. “The superintendents and principals are going to stay in the personnel business.”

But there will be a check of sorts. House Speaker J.D. Mesnard, R-Chandler, inserted language to require districts to list average salaries on their web sites.

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