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Ducey committed to conformity on his terms

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Gov. Doug Ducey is waiting for Republican lawmakers to blink in his bid to collect more taxes from Arizona residents.

The governor said Monday he does not plan to present any sort of counter offer after he vetoed legislation Friday which would have offset higher tax revenues from conformity with the Internal Revenue Code with an across-the-board cut in income tax rates.

“We’re going to move on to the budget process,” the governor told Capitol Media Services. But ultimately Ducey said he intends to prevail.

“We’re going to have conformity,” he said.

The governor also said one reason he vetoed the cut in tax rates is he believes it is “uncertain” what will be the effect of changes in federal tax laws on what Arizonans owe the state.

But Ducey has known about the changes in federal law for more than a year. And he sidestepped questions Monday about whether it has been his plan all along to have state coffers enriched by the additional tax burden that conforming to federal law will place on some Arizona residents.

“The plan is to be financially responsible,” he said.

In the meantime Arizona taxpayers who are ready to start filing their state returns are in a sort of legal and financial limbo.

The tax forms printed by the Department of Revenue presume that lawmakers eventually will come around to Ducey’s way of thinking. That means that the deductions allowed on those forms are the same as those now permitted following the decision in late 2017 by President Trump to sign the Tax Cut and Jobs Act.

That, however, is not the way state law actually reads.

For example, the new federal law limits to $10,000 the amount of taxes paid to state and local governments that can be deducted from an individual’s federal taxable income. And that is what shows up on the state forms that are now available.

What lawmakers approved last week would have conformed state law to those federal changes. But it also would have cut income tax rates by 0.11 percentage points to offset any additional taxes owed due to new limits on deductions.

Ducey’s veto means no conformity, at least not now. So the state Tax Code still reads that Arizonans can deduct all the taxes they pay to other state and local governments.

Tax attorney Bob Kamman said that creates some problems. Take the case of someone whose state and local taxes paid last year total $30,000

“If someone files a return today, what’s to prevent claiming the $30,000?” he asked. “It’s exactly what the law provides.”

Even assuming lawmakers do conform – with or without the offset with lower income tax rates that Ducey finds unacceptable – that law might not take effect until sometime this summer.

“Is there an obligation to file another return and pay the additional tax?” Kamman asked. “The return was correct when it was filed.”

As far as the Department of Revenue is concerned, it doesn’t matter what the law is on the day the return was filed. Any changes made would be retroactive. And that means the taxpayer would have to go back and file an amended return – and pay any additional taxes due.

But agency spokesman Ed Greenberg said taxpayers will be on their own, as the state form won’t help tell them what is deductible. What that means, he said, is taxpayers will have to research all the changes in federal law, figure out which changes apply, and make adjustments for those changes on the state return.

All of that goes back to the question of whether there will be conformity – and whether what GOP lawmakers call a “windfall” to the state will be offset with the lower tax rates they want.

Legislative budget analysts figure that the new federal limit on deductions will add $195 million to what Arizonans owe in state income taxes when they file their returns in April. But businesses will do better, with conformity to changes in federal law decreasing their state tax liability by $40 million.

In seeking a 0.11 percentage point drop in the rates, the excess would have gone back to individual taxpayers overall.

Ducey’s veto keeps tax rates as they are, with the assumption that lawmakers will come around and the state will set that net $155 million increase in revenues. And the governor said he sees no reason to change his mind.

“In terms of what we want to do, we’ve been clear,” he said, calling his plan to conform to the federal tax code and keep the extra cash “good policy.”

Ducey’s current hope is that lawmakers will come around during the upcoming budget negotiations even though the governor is not counting on the extra cash to finance any of his spending priorities. Instead, he wants to put whatever Arizona gets into the state’s “rainy-day” fund, a special account designed to keep programs operating when the economy falters and state tax collections drop.

And that, he said is being “financially responsible.”

“I don’t know how many times I have to talk about where we were four years ago and where we are today,” Ducey said, referring to his oft-mentioned comments about the state having a $1 billion deficit when he took office in 2015 and now with close to $1 billion in revenues above what’s needed to operate existing programs and services.

“We’re in a position where we can have good decisions and good policy,” the governor said. “And that’s what I’m going to commit to.”


  1. Governor Ducey has listened to Arizona! It’s time to stop the pattern of cutting revenue by passing bills and then failing to fund essential programs because there’s less revenue available when you get to setting the budget. If increasing the ‘Rainy Day fund’ is the goal, the money has to come from somewhere. At the same time the money to address Tax Conformity has to come from somewhere. Commitments have been made, and those require funding as well. All the competing priorities should be on the table at the same time. That’s how a budget negotiation should work.

  2. The state has amassed $1 billion above what it needs? Give it back.

  3. That $1 billion is NOT a surplus. Arizona still owes more than $900 million in K-12 funding due to its fiscal budgetary rollover.

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