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House approves measure to govern ‘controversial issues’ in class

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Republican lawmakers voted today to punish teachers who don’t present both sides of controversial science or events, a move that some lawmakers say could force them to seek out and present contrary views on everything from climate change and slavery to the 9-11 terrorist attacks, the Holocaust – and even whether Joe Biden really won the election. 

The measure approved along party lines requires that any “controversial issues” discussed in the classroom must be done “from diverse and contending perspectives without giving deference to any one perspective.” 

Michelle Udall

Michelle Udall

“Propaganda has no place in our classrooms,” said Rep. Michelle Udall, R-Mesa. She said there have been complaints by parents that their children are being taught things that some people do not believe to be true. 

Much of what is in her amendment to SB1532 is aimed at precluding instruction that one race, ethnic group or sex is “inherently morally or intellectually superior to another.” Udall’s measure also would bar teaching that any individual bears responsibility for actions committed by others of the same race, ethic group or sex. 

“It simply prevents teaching our students that their race determines their character, treatment or worth,” she said. “Biased, unbalanced teaching hurts children.” 

But Rep. Randall Friese, D-Tucson, said the measure is based on a false premise. 

“It is not propaganda that our country enslaved people for 400 years,” he said. “It is not propaganda that native tribes had their land taken by our forefathers.” 

Udall insisted that nothing stops that from being taught. 

“We all acknowledge that these things happened,” she said. 

But Udall’s legislation contains no definition of what is “controversial” and, under her proposal, could not be presented as fact but instead would require a teacher to provide an alternate view – or face discipline. Friese suggested that might only be defined in retrospect after a parent objects to something that already was taught. 

And that lack of definition alarmed some legislators who pointed out that any teacher who violates the law is subject to not just a $5,000 fine, but would be forced to reimburse the school for any “misused monies.” 

Udall brushed aside some of the examples of what might land a teacher in trouble. For example, she said, a teacher would not have to present alternate theories about whether the earth is round. 

She said an “accurate portrayal of historical events” would be permitted. And she said that “largely discredited” theories do not need to be presented as fact. 

But then legislators started asking about specific examples. 

Rep. Athena Salman, D-Tempe, said there are those who believe there were positive aspects of slavery and that some slaves were treated better than others. 

“Suppose that a teacher were to teach, and believed was an accurate portrayal, that all slavery was bad, that all masters were bad?” she asked. 

“If the sources are well understood and if it’s well-cited, that would be considered an accurate portrayal,” Udall said. “If it’s not something that has been discredited, it would be considered an accurate portrayal.” 

But Rep. Diego Rodriguez, D-Phoenix, said Udall’s measure makes issues where there should be none. 

“It is not a controversial statement to say slavery was the cause of the Civil War and not an issue of states’ rights,” he said. Ditto, Rodriguez said, would be a statement in a current events class saying that Joe Biden was elected in a fair and free election. 

“And now we’re going to have to ‘both-sides’ to this?” he asked. 

And what of climate change, Salman said, where there is a small group of scientists who contend either it is not occurring or that humans play no role. Does that, too, she asked, require equal time? 

“If they’re working on controversial topics, they should teach them from diverse and contending perspectives without giving preference to either side and let students draw their own conclusion,” Udall responded. 

Rep. Kelli Butler, D-Paradise Valley, asked about the 9-11 terrorist attacks. 

“There are ample conspiracy theories as to whether that happened, how it happened,” she said. Butler wanted to know if a teacher who believes the attacks occurred and who caused them would then have to bring in someone with an alternate viewpoint. 

“Because there are a lot them,” she said. 

“You can just Google it,” Butler continued. “There are all kinds of videos. It’s a pretty established conspiracy theory.” 

Udall said she wasn’t concerned. 

“Largely discredited arguments don’t need to be presented as fact,” she said. 

But Rep. Charlene Fernandez, D-Yuma, said even local issues can fall into the same category. 

She told colleagues about Felix Longoria who died during World War II, came home in a flag-draped coffin but was denied a wake at a Texas funeral home “because white people would be upset.” 

“Our teachers should be allowed to speak about Felix Longoria,” Fernandez said. “But they can’t teach it unless they can talk about why his family was denied a place to honor their father, their son, a husband, a friend and a neighbor.” 

Rep. Frank Carroll, R-Sun City West, said he sees the legislation as simply an extension of existing law, which declares that parents have a right to direct the education of their minor child “without obstruction or interference from this state.” 

“So this is for the parents and this is for the children to be able to stand up against the bad actors,” he said, meaning teachers who don’t honor that law. 

And Rep. Mark Finchem, R-Oro Valley, compared all this to the move by some to remove monuments because of what they represent. 

“That’s called rewriting history,” he said. “Whether you like that monument or not, that monument exists as a marker in time to provoke thought which, of course, provokes critical thinking.” 

Even the method that Udall used to bring the issue to the full House for a vote was itself controversial. 

Rather than going through the full process, which would have guaranteed at least one public hearing, she attached it to a semi-related measure which would make it illegal for teachers to use school resources to “organize, plan or execute any activity that impedes or prevents a public school from operating for any period of time.” 

That followed a decision by some teachers in the Peoria Unified School District to stage a sick-out in January after the board decided to reopen schools for in-person learning despite the fact that the “metrics” of the level of infection showed it was not yet safe to do that. Heather Rooks, a parent in the district, testified at a hearing that she had evidence that teachers were sending emails from school servers during school hours to organize the event. 

The now-amended version of SB1532 returns the bill to the Senatewhich approved it without that language. And it, like the House, can approve it without a public hearing. 

4 comments

  1. So teachers now HAVE to teach false, lies, alternative facts otherwise they are punished and get fined $5K??? only in pathetic AZ, but it seems to be on par with most RED states – where Stupidity Rules!

  2. We have to be very careful in thinking that we know what is “true”. I believe that global warming is an urgent man-made problem, that the Civil War was about slavery, and that Biden won the election, because I am told these things by credible sources. I don’t know any of those things from personal experience. There are many scientific “facts” still taught in schools, right now, that are wrong, or at least incomplete. It takes a while for the leading edges of science to become school curriculum. For example, before Columbus (figuratively speaking) the world really was flat. One could learn so in any school, and the people could only take the word of “scientists”. But now we “know” the world is round because …. wait! … because we take the word of “scientists.” This seems like a silly example, but it illustrates that we are not as sure of anything as we think we are. So, as we “know” that Biden won the election, we have to ask, “Just because the best info we now have says it is true, does that make it true”. If we stop teaching alternative thought, no matter how silly it seems, aren’t we just repeating the mistake of calling what we believe to be “facts”.

  3. Complete sophism (i.e., BS). A refutation of everything the Udall name once stood for, especially common sense and regard for the truth.

    Let’s have Holy Rollers teach planetary science, for a start. And repressed men and women teach gender relations. And those without scruples teach political science. At least, that makes sense.

    Arizona kids will have the same trouble making sense of their classes as of their whacked out politicos.

    “Without obstruction or interference from the state”? What could be more obstructive or interfering?

    In our State run by kooks, it’s only fitting that our children should be taught as kooks, also.

  4. It is important that students be taught that even in the face of facts, credible, and valid supported evidence that there will always be people who have differing opinions. Many opposing issues can be dealt with by a teacher making a general statement that there are always people that have an opposing view, right or wrong.

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